44: Steven Little is…back? Plus an interview with Billy Lenoir
February 23, 2018
There’s Steven Little gossip but what does it mean? We have information about a ride in honor of the Parkland shooting victims and survivors, more news from the Olympics, and Crystal updates us on her first ever 10K. Plus we sit down with Billy Lenoir.
You Might also like
By Crystal — 1 year ago
94: We Have Our First Celebrity Tread Spotting Plus Our Interview With Slim Chandra-Shekar
February 23, 2019
What celeb is our first verified Tread user? Some harsh words were directed at a tribe and we get a little worked up and we have visits from both the Stat Fairy and the Peloton Prophet. Plus our interview with Slim Chandra-Shekar!Post Views: 0
By Crystal — 2 years ago
61: Tread Classes Are HERE plus an interview with Jenny Hutt
June 22, 2018Post Views: 0
By Crystal — 2 years ago
Becoming physically fit can be quite challenging but with the right tools like a treadmill, you can push yourself to reach the health goal you need. The Peloton Tread is one of the best fitness tools you can have at home, making running indoors more interactive and fun. Rebecca Kennedy, Peloton Tread Instructor, introduces to us this product and also shares her story of how she came to work with the company. Rebecca talks to Crystal and Tom O’Keefe about her program that includes a guide on using the treadmill efficiently. She then offers some running advise including stretches and other words of motivation. With her background in gymnastics, track and field, and dance, Rebecca Kennedy might just inspire you to get on the treadmill and be on an interactive indoor fitness journey!
Listen to the podcast here:
We Talk To Rebecca Kennedy Plus Jennifer Jacobs Has A Facebook Home!
This is our midlife crisis episode. This is 40.
How fitting that it’s a special episode?
We’re available on iTunes. You can go there to rate, review, subscribe. We have a new review. This is from JL CSF. They sayid “Great find. I got my bike in May of 2015 and am amazed at how the community has grown. It’s hard to keep up with the OPP, but this show does an amazing job of summarizing the highlights of the week. It’s super fun and informative.” Thank you. If you would like to leave a review before we run out, you can do that at iTunes. Don’t forget you can also find us on Facebook at Facebook.com/TheClipOut. While you’re there, you can join The Clip Out Group. The difference between the page and the group is if you join the group, the things we post will automatically show up in your feed. If you like the page, while we appreciate the like, a lot of times the stuff you post, who knows what Facebook’s algorithms will do to it. If you want to stay up to speed, that’s the difference between the two.
I’m glad you mentioned that because I saw we got a ton of new likes, which is great. Thank you. In case you’re not in the group, you might want to be in the group because they also get special little features, little heads up about what’s going on in Pelotonia. For instance, when we had Rebecca Kennedy on, we asked the group, “What questions do you have?”
The group got to chime in with questions and when you read her interview in this episode, a lot of those questions were supplied by the audience. We should probably take this moment to do a little caveat. We tried to read the names that’s attached to the questions and a handful of people have got their names read. What happened was she started answering the questions organically before we could ask them.
It got awkward to try to push them back in. A lot of people did not get mentioned this time around. We appreciate that you submitted the questions and thank you for taking the time.
We don’t want you to feel like you got slid or you were like, “What happened there?” Once she started answering the question, then it was hard to circle back around. It all spun out of control. It was madness.
Did you say the TheClipOut.com?
There are all of our shameless plugs.
Besides Rebecca Kennedy, we have all kinds of things to talk about in this episode. It’s groups galore. We have all kinds of group updates. We have an update on one of our instructors. We also are going to talk about a new collection in the boutique. We have a new feature as well.
Let’s dig in.
Shopping is always at the top of my list. There was a new collection that dropped. It was the new Jess King’s PlayFULL Collection. All the instructors get to have their own collection. This is a little bit different because Jess King already has her own line of clothing called PlayFULL. This particular line is a mix of Peloton and her line PlayFULL. It dropped. There was a little snafu. One of the leggings got put up for $0. They sold out in five minutes.
I can’t imagine why, people like free. Did Peloton honor?
Peloton honored. They didn’t even get an email. It just shipped.
That’s nice of them. This happens to retailers sometimes. About every 6 to 8 months you hear something like Walmart screwed up and sold a flat screen for a nickel. When I was a kid, flat screens cost a nickel. Typically, the retailers go like, “Clearly, that’s a mistake. We’re voiding your order.” Maybe they’ll offer you a little bit better discount than you would’ve gotten, but they still buy it.Employees of the fitness industry aim to motivate, uplift, and inspire. Click To Tweet
For anybody that complains anything about Peloton, let’s remember this. Let’s remember something that I don’t see how you could possibly fall to Peloton for it. They had an accident and they let it go. I had one in my cart and it was gone. I tried. It’s a cute collection. There’s also a catsuit in there because it’s Jess King. She’s the one that wore the catsuit at our HRI.
Some of our longtime readers might remember, longtime because we’ve been around for 40 episodes. A while back we talked about Hannah Corbin’s mother had kidney issues. We have an update on that.
I am excited to let everybody know that Hannah Corbin’s mom, Sharon Corbin, got her donor. She got a donated kidney. My understanding is that everybody is healing. Everybody’s doing great. I have to tell you about this awesome thing that occurred on the GoFundMe page. There’s a GoFundMe page that’s been out there for a long time. They originally had a $15,000 goal to raise to help with medical expenses because it’s super expensive. When I checked after I heard the news, they were $12,000. It’s been up there for a few months, but still great. People have been super great. However, we have some awesome tribe members and a couple of people you might know, who’ve been on the page. Nancy put a little post out on the JSS Tribe and they said, “For every dollar that you donate going forward, we’re going to match that donation up to $5,000.” How amazing is that? I checked it and guess what the amount is up to now?
It’s $28,692. When this community decides they’re going to do something, they freaking do it with style. It all started because a few months ago, this GoFundMe got put out there and it’s been going and going. All those people donated and then Paige and Nancy got it to a whole other level. Everybody’s been giving. It’s gone from $12,000 to $28,000. You guys are freaking amazing. We did donate. I’m happy for Hannah’s mom, Sharon. How exciting that she finally got that? What a relief for the family. That’s such a hard thing to go through. If you haven’t already, reach out and tell Hannah Corbin congratulations to her mom. Thank you, Paige and Nancy.
There’s a big news in the world of Jennifer Jacobs’ crew.
A little bit of an update. I told you there’s a new fan page a while back and it was called Jacob’s Tribe. You also might remember that’s what got me kicked out of the Fast Times group that I talked about. I still find that hilarious. However, Jennifer Jacobs has now joined the group. Not only has she joined the group, but she also put a lovely message on it. They have rebranded. They are now JJ’s Crew. There is this message from Jennifer Jacobs, “There are no words that will express exactly how I feel about this crew that has come together to celebrate all the positivity that this community has to offer. At the least, I want you all to know that I appreciate you. It is a privilege and honor to lead this crew. Truly, this is not about me. This is much more about each and every one of you that come together to form this crew. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the love sending it right back to you.” How amazing is that?
People over time have asked, “Does she have an official Facebook residence where they can land and get updates in the same way that Jenn Sherman does or Hannah Corbin?” Previously there hadn’t been one and now there is.
Jennifer Jacobs is still going to be involved in the Heart Rate CREW and all the other group. She’s going to be on the official Peloton page, wherever she was originally found. She’s still be in there. She’s not going away. It’s cool that she has an official home at this time that she recognizes as her official home.
If you’re looking for that information, you can go over to Facebook and search for JJ’s Crew.
There’s been a lot of excitement about the Peloton Tread. Some people got together and said, “We need a new group for the Peloton Tread.” There is now a group for the Peloton Tread and it is called Peloton Tread Group.
There’s something to be said for keeping it simple.
There are a lot of groups out there and you want to have Peloton in the name so that people can find it easily. The Peloton Tread Group, we’ve got some admins that you might recognize: Rachel Boutine, Ellen Beck and myself. In the interest of full disclosure, I wouldn’t want anyone to think that I was not telling them that I was an admin. Here I am saying go over to the group and join. If you’re interested in the Tread, you should join this group because it’s all about the Tread. We’ve got the OPP for the Bike. Let’s have a group for the Tread. We can keep them all separate plus new people that have never had either. How nice is it to go into a nice, clean, fresh group? They get to start from scratch.
If a potential Tread purchaser stumbles into the OPP, they’re going to be like, “No, thank you.”
Now they have an additional place to go.
With all the excitement about the Tread, Peloton has not forgotten about the Bike. There are some new features that they unveiled.
We’ve got a couple of things. One is called a class plan for the class detail. You’re out there looking for an on-demand class. You click on the class. Now you can see exactly what’s involved in the class. I know that doesn’t necessarily mean much to you, but specifically you can see how long you spend cycling. You can see how long you spend on arm segments or how long you spend on the warm-up. It lays out the entire class plan. You can see clearly are their arms on this one? No arms. Am I going to be in the saddle the whole time? Is there going to be a lot of hill work? Are there going to be lots of intervals? Is this an endurance ride?
This sounds like a feature that they’re getting in place because of the treadmill.
I think so too. People will know more about what we mean once they read Rebecca’s interview. It’s going to help people decide what class they want to take. I am excited that it’s coming to the Bike because it’s fabulous to be able to get an idea of what’s in store before you get on the Bike. We’ve got our music that everybody asked for. You can see your list. You can see who’s playing. Before you even get into the class, you can see exactly what’s in store.
You said there were multiple features. What else do they have?
The second one is called a member search. Apparently, you can search by username or your Facebook friends. You tap on the More button on the bottom right hand of the home screen and select Find Peloton Members or you can select Find Facebook Friends. You’re then going to be able to get both. It’s an easy way to find people you’re already Facebook friends on the Bike and vice-versa.
I wonder if you will discover Facebook friends that had a Peloton that you didn’t know.
So far, that has not happened to me, but we live in the Midwest. There’s not as many here as on the Coasts. Also, a couple of little things that Peloton did not officially announce, but that I have noticed on the Bike that I thought I would tell everybody about. If you haven’t looked at your friend’s list lately or the people who are following you, if you click on Followers, you used to scroll all the way to the bottom to see who your new followers were. Now they’re right there at the top, which is super handy because if you start to scroll, you could be there for a while. The other thing, and I didn’t notice this, but somebody else brought it up about their emails. When we get the emails from Peloton, it used to say their name and their leaderboard name. Now it just says their leaderboard name. This is a small thing, but I think it’s for privacy concerns. It’s interesting that it changed. I wanted to put it out there in case people had not noticed.
Everyone in Peloton world has been all super excited about Peloton Tread. Rumors have been circulating. People would post something and then it would get taken down. It was always craziness. It’s finally official. It’s here. How more official could it be than we have your new Peloton Tread instructor, Rebecca Kennedy. Rebecca, how’s it going?
I’m great. Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being on the show. We’re so excited.
We figured we should talk to you upfront because soon you’re going to be super busy.
There are a few things that I might have to do in the upcoming months. In all honesty, it’s exciting. I can’t wait to get my feet wet with everything. I’ve been working with the company behind the scenes collectively with the hardware and software engineers and all of our production teams to make sure that this is something that I feel good about giving to not just the local community but globally. Everyone that already exists in this community, something that we feel good about that’s going to be game-changing and also life-changing. It’s freaking cool.
It sounds like they didn’t build a treadmill and then hire you. It sounds like you had a great deal of input on features of the new device.
You got it. They started developing the treadmill several months ago and I joined the team a few months ago. It definitely was in the early stages. I thought the first prototype having been built after had been an idea in a conversation and then it started being built and sourced. When I came on board, I had the opportunity to work closely and give a trainer and user feedback on what would make my life better or my job easier. As a user, what would make the treadmill less daunting or taxing? There are certain features on what made our Peloton Tread different than any other experience you’ve had before. From the way you operate it hardware-wise, but then you all know when it comes to that 32-inch screen, which is almost double the size of what’s on the Bike, you’re getting this content and in-your-face personal training that doesn’t exist anywhere else.If it isn’t broke, don't fix it. Keep doing what you're doing. Don't bounce around. Continue to hone your craft where you're at. Click To Tweet
When I was working with them, it was awesome. It became a team atmosphere. Usually, it’s like, “Come in and try this,” but they were like, “Come and try this and tell me your thoughts.” After I did tell them my thoughts and give them my ideal case scenario, “Can we do it?” They do everything in their power to make it happen. I got pretty much my whole wish list. As a trainer developing a treadmill, I’m like, “This is phenomenal.” It’s not like I have to run on this every day. I get to run on this every day. I wish I had space in my own tiny little New York City apartment to have one in my home because I would use it every single day.
When you walked in and saw it, was there one glaring thing that you were like, “My dream treadmill has got to have fill in the blank.”
It’s not even something that was already on there that I wanted them to change. It’s a feeling. It’s an experience. When you step on the treadmill, you want it to have the cushion that is comparable. If you step into a gym and get on any treadmill that’s in a big box gym, the belt is slippery. If it’s an old treadmill, it gets pulled and stretched and then it jerks you around a little bit. I was like, “We’re going to make this something that my joints feel good stepping on every day. It’s going to absorb the shock. It’s not going to be propelled by the belt, but I want to propel it by myself. I want to use my body as I would outdoors. I want there to be comparability to that outdoor run.”
While I don’t want to run in 10, 20-degree weather, I do still want to run in the winter. I do still want to train year-round and I don’t want it to feel like that normal feeling that everyone has attributed to a treadmill where it’s like running my knees, my hips, my ankles. I can tell you that I ran on this every single day, eight miles a day, five days in a row and my body felt great. It was something that you can’t even get outdoors. I live in New York City and it’s the concrete jungle because I have an option of running on concrete sidewalks, street or highway.
While I take advantage of that, having an opportunity to train on a device that’s going to alleviate a lot of those problems and also give me some badass instruction and music. That’s another thing when I worked with the hardware team. Anyone that owns a Peloton Bike is going to be astonished at the difference between the sound quality between the Bike and the Tread. Our soundbar is now facing forward and the loudness, volume, clarity, bass, everything that you want an experience in a studio, you get that in your home. It’s phenomenal.
I cannot wait to try it. I’m starting to run for the first time in my life and I’m approaching 40. It was cold and it was hard to make myself go out and do that.
I am proud of you for getting out there and doing that because in that cold weather and a newbie runner, you need to have a lot of self-motivation. That’s huge. That’s amazing.
It was 17 degrees and that’s warming up compared to where it’s been.
It’s been ground zero. I was like, “It’s close enough to 20 degrees that I can justify that. I can go out there.” A couple of days ago, it was cold. We were walking through a parking lot and my face felt like it was getting the frostbite on it. I’ve gotten many questions. People have asked like, “How did you end up at Peloton?” Tell us about your work history and how you got here.
I’ve lived in New York City for almost a decade and the reason I moved here was I was a dancer and I got my Bachelor’s degree in college in dance. While I was finishing up my senior year, I got into both Alvin Ailey and also Broadway Dance Center internship program so I could continue studying. I jumped on the opportunity to move to New York and start dancing. I got signed with an agency quickly and was working as a professional dancer. I met Emma Lovewell, Ally Love and also Hannah Corbin back in the day as we were all dancers. I’ve known all those girls for such a long time. It’s great to be full circle back with them more. I started fitness modeling and doing a lot of on-camera work back then. To stay in shape, I was working at a gym.
As a dancer, you don’t make a ton of money. I paid off my gym membership by working for the Director of Fitness Fair. My mentor for this entire time of my career here in New York suggested that I look into teaching. He was like, “I think you have the personality for it. You always take a class. You’re bouncing around the gym nonstop. You’re a performer. It makes sense.” As a gymnast, I had personal trainers growing up and I always love how empowered and how I felt like I had the upper hand in my board and in my craft because I was getting stronger in the gym. When I got certified and I started teaching class, I was 21, 22years old. I was, “Lord, thank God there was no video footage of me teaching back then.” You got to get your feet wet somehow.
We all learn experience is the best teacher, but I’ve been teaching for many years now. I used to listen to this YouTube video in my headphones when I was at the gym and it was this workout that existed in LA called Barry’s Bootcamp, which we all know now. They weren’t here in New York City. There was no boutique fitness here in New York City back at the time when I first started teaching, I would always YouTube it. Somebody had randomly videoed their class or got some footage of it. I would make up my own interval workouts. I thought they were fun and super effective. Once I got wind that they were coming to New York City, I jumped at the chance to go meet the CEO. I met him for the first time and I said, “I want to work here. What do I need to do?” He was like, “Okay, let’s get you into the next training group.” It was as simple as that.
There was only one studio back then. There were about eight instructors maybe. I was hired within the first year that they were open, six months that they were open. At that point, I had been teaching in New York City for a few years and doing a little personal training and getting my bearings and a lot more training and programming under my belt. When it came to teaching at Barry’s, it felt grounding for me. It felt rooted in my beliefs as a total-body training system. At that same exact time, I was working as a fitness model with Wilhelmina and they sent me out to an audition for Nike. I got hired at the same exact time as Barry’s as I did with Nike as a master trainer, which was cool.
We got to start teaching bodyweight training classes, strength training classes with equipment for all women around the world, anywhere between 10 to 300 women at the same time. It was always powerful, big statement messages. I felt incredibly blessed to work with these insane companies. Nike’s been around for decades and they continue to show upwards growth. Working with a company like that, you get to learn the inside workings and get a great solid business background. Working with a startup company like Barry’s, a mom-and-pop company where they bring you on as one of their own families, I got to get a lot of different experiences as a trainer, but also as an employee and a leader.
As the fitness boutique industry in New York started to grow, I saw a lot of new concepts opening up and people trying to reinvent the wheel, offerings of the workouts that we do here. I always felt that if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. Keep doing what you’re doing. Don’t bounce around. Continue to hone your craft where you’re at. I always believe we get one reputation, one credibility, and you need to put in your work. You need to do your diligence. I always feel passionate and grateful that I had that time to build it. I met John and Jill Foley taking my bootcamp classes a few years ago before they even started Peloton. They didn’t even have the Bike completely developed yet, but John always came up to me and Jill. They’re wonderful people. I love them. “Rebecca, we’d love for you to be the fitness model for our Kickstarter campaign.” I was like, “This is crazy. I would love to do that.”
I get to ride one of the first Peloton prototype Bikes in their home in New York City. I saw that they not only reached their goal but surpassed their goal. From there, it continued to get bigger and bigger. I’ve watched their journey and dedication to this company grow and it’s been phenomenal seeing a dream not just become reality but become many other people’s dreams and realities at the exact same time. When Robin Arzon reached out to me, letting me know, “Rebecca, we’re looking for a master instructor for a Tread,” it felt like this role was made for me. I’ve spent all those years working at Barry’s, all of those years working with Nike, keeping myself grounded in one place, gaining all that experience, taking on leadership roles and working with clients. Seeing them develop into these unleashed athletes, there was no way I could turn it down. Working for Peloton was a dream. They always ask like, “How did you know?” I said, “The fact that I would shave my head to work for this company, that’s how I know.”
It’s been a wonderful experience before I even started working for them, before I even signed. I love the ability to grow within a company. I love seeing them honestly celebrate women. Here’s a cool fact, other than myself as a master instructor but our VP of fitness, our head of PR, head of marketing, our design hardware and software engineers are all women. Seeing a company not just celebrate but build itself on strong female leadership. I couldn’t wait to be a part of that. It felt like I was walking into a home and somewhere where I was valued. I think as an employee and also especially in fitness when we’re here to motivate, uplift, design and continue to inspire, you want that to exist in your place of work as well. That’s how I got here. I’m excited and grateful to be here as well.
Since you knew John Foley and Jill Foley, you were the fitness model for the Kickstarter and then you watched this whole thing explode. Was there a moment of a kid in a candy store with his face pressed up against the window but no money in his pocket? Did you feel like, “I want to be on this train?”
They did bring me in to audition. John wanted me to be a Peloton instructor years ago, but contractually I was working with another digital fitness brand and I couldn’t get out of it for a little while, so it didn’t work. In all honesty, I love the Bike. I love taking all of the classes. I love all the instructors. I love what they’re doing. Did I feel like I was a kid in a candy store looking through the window? No, only because I knew that what I was doing is serving a purpose. I was gaining experience and I was invaluable. Hindsight’s always 20/20. Looking back had I left earlier, I don’t know if I would have been the right candidate for this role now.
That makes a lot of sense. It feels like it was meant to be timing-wise.
It reminds me of Billy Crystal was supposed to be on the first episode of SNL and they cut him for time and he never came back. He was like, “I missed my window and I’m going to go do something else,” and then 10, 12 years later, he circles back around and it makes him a huge star. It reminds me of that. They’re at the beginning but not quite in front of the people. Now, this is your moment.
I love that story for him too. It’s comparable. That’s exactly how it feels. When I called my mom, I was like, “You’re never going to believe this, but this is what they want me to do.” She was like, “Are you kidding me?” I’m like, “I know. I’ve only had one interview, but hopefully it goes well.”
You’ve been there for a few months. Was it super hard to keep this a secret?
Only because when I got hired, I wanted to scream from the top of the mountains with joy and tell everyone what I was doing because I had built this community here locally, but I also felt excited to jump in like eager beaver, two feet in. I want to be a part of your community now. They’re like, “We’re going to save your reveal until we reveal the treadmill.” I said, “When are we revealing the treadmill?” They said, “January.” I’m like, “What’s the game plan? How am I talking about this?” I’m staying out of photos, exiting studios in different ways, and trying to keep it low key. I’ve been auditioning all my instructors that were going to be on our Tread team. They all had to be equally secretive. It was hard, but at the same time I knew that it would be that much more potent when the Tread reveal came because there would be much excitement built around it and to be associated with such a great moment. It was worth waiting for every single second.
What a great reveal. This probably doesn’t fit in with that super well, but I want to make sure I get this question. We have a bunch of followers that submitted questions as well and one of them was talking about how you have your RK Solid brand and you had an RK Solid Retreat that you did. They were curious if you were still going to do that again.
The long-short answer is I hope so. I definitely have no plans of doing it in spring specifically because we’re all hands on deck getting the studio and all of our programming ready, doing all of our rehearsals and recording. It’s not going to be in spring, but there might be 1 or 2 in the fall and winter. Stay tuned. It would definitely be small and intimate like my last one, specifically because I like to be hands-on with all of my attendees and make sure everyone’s getting good training and also have that one-on-one experience. Yes, possibly. I have already linked up with a couple of retreat centers and different locations, but definitely Peloton is my number one priority. Honestly, it’s going to be one of those things where if we’re super busy in the fall, I’m not going to be leaving anytime soon. I will definitely keep you updated. It’ll be on my social and on my website. If that was something that anybody was definitely looking forward to, stay tuned. I will be posting away and giving you all the details. I’ll give you enough time to book a trip across the world.
That question was from Katie Arman. She rides the Bike. She’s super excited to hear that you’re the instructor for the Treads.
Katie, I can’t wait to see you on my retreat and on the Tread.
Our next question is from Stacy Revere. She asks, “How much do you stretch before running? What stretches do you do?”
Before I run or workout, it depends on the workout, on the run, on the specific structures that I do. The question that she asks was how much. In all honesty, it’s whatever amount of time I have that I can get a good amount of work done. It has to be specific to the workout that you’re about to do. I don’t do static stretching before I run or before I work out because the muscles are not warmed up. I do dynamic stretches prior to my runs and I work out specifically because I get a better run, a better workout and better results when I do that. I’ll take a minimum of five minutes, a maximum of 30 minutes. After my workout, a cool-down stretch on a good day, I’ll get an hour. On a day that I need to wrap things up super quick, I’ll take 5 to 10 minutes. Making sure that you do something is better than nothing. If you do have that time where instead of sitting down on a couch and watching TV, throw your yoga mat or your Peloton mat on the floor and get into some stretches and multitask. You can walk and chew gum, you can stretch and watch TV.Running is definitely a universal language. You can go anywhere around the world and there are always people running everywhere. Click To Tweet
How did you originally get into running?
I ran track and field in high school. I was a 100-meter sprinter and hurdler. I also dabbled in the triple jumps. In gymnastics, to keep your conditioning up, part of what we did was run on-site. It was never long distance, but it was long enough that it definitely stayed a part of my regimen throughout my entire life even after I quit gymnastics. Every single sport incorporates running into it specifically because it is one of the best ways to condition your cardiovascular system. When I moved to New York City and I needed to get some cardio in, I always would run in Central Park, the West Side Highway or in Brooklyn over the bridges. It was a great way to get to know my city but also an easy way to get connected with myself and find out how I was doing.
It was a good check-in, not just an escape, not just a place and time to meditate, but also a time to see how I’m improving. Every single run will tell you where you’re at now. It’ll be the first flag of where your energy is, how your pace is, where you’re sore, where you’re not sore, where you can push, where you can pull. Running is definitely something that will always give back to you. As I was getting into my career in fitness, to stay in top shape, I always saw my best results physically when I added running into the next and longer duration runs as well as intervals. I’d mix it up always. When I got hired with Nike, part of Nike Training Club is also Nike Run Club. It’s coinciding with it. Everyday training always incorporates some running in my head. In every training system that I’ve ever worked with, it celebrates it because it’s honestly one of the best ways to condition your body and you can continue to do it on a regular basis with it always giving back to you.
It has to be the oldest form of exercise.
You definitely said at birth, every single culture, it’s a universal language. You can go anywhere around the world and join a run club and go to any city and there are always people running everywhere. There might not be people doing the same dance everywhere or lifting the same way or training the same way but running is definitely a universal language for sure.
Since you’re not teaching classes yet for obvious reasons, there’s no one to teach them quite at this moment. What do you do all day?
Every day I’m still building my team and we are working on our training manual. We’re putting together all of our content and I work with the music team. It’s a long journey to get from point A to the studio opening. Even looking at the timeline, which seems like a long way away. I know from our studio opening and getting the treadmills into your home, we have a ton of work to do on the backend to get everyone ready. We’re going to be offering hundreds of different types of classes and we all want to be teaching every type of class with the same intention, the same goal. Learning how to incorporate the leaderboard into our running and how to incorporate heart rate training on and off the treadmill. There are institutions of different protocols that we’re putting into place. Long story short, it’s a lot of behind the scenes stuff that you won’t see front-facing, but everything that we’re doing is going to make the experience 1,000 times bigger.
It’s helpful for people to know that. We are excited. You might have picked up on by now that this is an intense community. We’re all supportive and excited to find out every detail that we can. Everyone’s anxious. When you talked earlier about the Tread, you said that it’s different than a regular treadmill. It’s different than running outside. What is a running experience like on the Tread compared to a regular treadmill?
Other than the belt itself, it has 59 different hand-laid flats that are super-cushioned. It’s not going to slip on you. The shock absorption is insane. The knobs go from a walk to a sprint. It’s fast, like driving a Ferrari. You literally slide the knob forward and then slide it right back and there’s no lag time. I come from a background where interval training on the treadmill was our shtick and that’s what we did every single day. You’d have to either type in the numbers, press enter and if you went over the range, you would get stuck, you’d have to start it over. You were pulling on the emergency cord to stop fast enough. We eliminated all of that. That was one of the first things I said, “There needs to be a quick way, one-touch for me to go from 0 to 60 in a blink of an eye.” We managed to make that happen and it’s extremely intuitive.
Do you know those fidget spinners? It’s like that where it’s addictive. You’re like, “I want to go fast.” You’ll notice that’s the first thing you do. If anyone’s leaning over the treadmill and talking to you, they’re probably going to play with it and all of a sudden, you’ll be going from walking to running fast. It’s super fun. It almost ends up feeling like a video game that you’re immersed in. It’s a wonderful experience. For me, it reminds me of the IMAX experience when I used to go into an old movie theater and you knew what to expect. You’d sit in uncomfortable seats that didn’t lean back and the screen was right in front of you and it’d be a little blurry. You’d always have that first in the corner where they’d cut the scenes, but then all of a sudden as we started to evolve, you’ve got new technology behind.
The seats started going back, the screen started getting bigger, the sounds are getting bigger and everything gets greater. When you take into consideration the user experience, now we have incredible sound. We have this screen that takes you into our New York City studio and then also when you’re touching the screen, you can input your own themes that you’d want it to be for a walk, a jog, a run and a sprint. Instead of even throwing the knob forward or back, you can literally touch the screen once and go to the exact speed that you’ve pre-programmed and your user profile to be your jog, run and sprint.
I know that there are a ton of different classes that you can take. Can you tell us what they’re like? What’s a walking class like? Tell us about the different classes and what they’re like.
This is definitely something for everyone here, for every level of fitness, every age, everybody’s different days. Even if I look at my week, some days I’m going to want to walk. Some days I’m going to want to run. Some days I’m going to want to climb. When we designed this, we’re definitely going to have a bunch of walking classes. Some of them will incorporate walk runs. If you’re looking to start running but it’s not in your repertoire yet, you start off by doing different styles of intervals of walking. Maybe it’s twenty seconds on and 40 seconds off or one minute on and one minute off or two minutes on and one minute off. There’ll be different styles of intervals. There’ll be walking, hill climbs which would feel like a hike. You can imagine if you’re ever going to go on a hike in the summer or fall, you can do all of your training on the treadmill.
That would be also some steady hill climbs with a gradual increase of the incline or some rolling hills. That would also be applicable to our running classes. Some days we’re going to do hill repeats to get our legs strong. Some days we’re going to do fartlek. Some days are intervals, tempo, or threshold runs. These terms come from a running community. If you’re not invested in the running community and you want to go for a fun run, as we have on the Bike, we’re going to have on the Tread. You’ll have your hip hop, rock, country, and all of your different scene classes. We’re definitely going to do all of that, pop classes on the treadmill itself, and then you get even more stuff on and off the treadmill. You’re going to have hybrids, walking and strength training classes, running and strength training classes. Classes that are fun on the treadmill and fun on the floor, body weight, resistance bands, toning classes. There are over 100 different styles of classes that we’re going to be leading. We’re going to have beginner, intermediate and advanced classes for all of them. Low-impact classes, you name it, it’s definitely probably in there because I want there to be something for everybody here.
When you do one of the classes that incorporate floor work, is it like you get off of the treadmill one time? Is it like you’re on the treadmill, hop off, do some floor work, hop back on, then you do it again? How many times would you do that in a typical class? Does that depend on how long the class is?
It’s all depending on how long the class is. If it’s a twenty-minute class, you would split it up half and half, ten minutes on the treadmill and ten minutes on the floor. If it’s an hour-long class, then it can go a bunch of different ways. It could be split up 30 and 30, four quadrants. It could be split up into three different rounds. It’s all highly dependent upon what the instructor is specifically working on that day. Maybe they want to do an upper body, a lower body, and a core section on the floor. Maybe that’s why you’re doing three rounds on the treadmill independently.
You’ll know what you’re going to get when you select and there’s the class description so you’ll know exactly how it’s broken down before you even link into it. It’s definitely always going to be a little different and that’s what’s going to make it great is that you’re going to trust your instructor to give you the best quality material. I’ve been taking the entire time I’ve worked at this company thus far and I’m still looking to find the best trainers in the entire world. I feel confident and I know that you are going to be able to trust every single member on this team that’s going to give you the best content.
We have a lot of people who do marathon training while they ride the Bike. I know a lot of people are excited to have the treadmill option. Is there going to be something within the Tread that you can use for marathons? If you want to go a certain amount of miles at a certain pace, can you do that but be in a class atmosphere?
We’re definitely going to be doing race prep classes, anything from your best 5K to your marathon training classes. While we won’t have twenty-mile classes like long runs or anything longer than 60 minutes on our actual board for options, the runs that we’re going to put in there and queue will be for the long runs and will be specifically for race preparation. If you ever do want to run longer, you have several different options. You can double up on classes and go into on-demand. You can take an encore class.
You can go the extra mile, which is one of my favorite classes. I designed this extra class called the extra mile and at the end of any class, you can add the extra mile on. That comes up both live and on-demand. Sometimes if you want to get extra mileage that day or you want to challenge yourself and see what your fastest pace is that day or you want to burn an extra 100 calories or whatever your reason is, it’s going to be there for you. We also have a Just Run feature. If there is ever a day where you want to hop on the Tread and hit your long run, you can go for your twenty-miler right there too.
You could do a manual run and capture the metrics and not necessarily even be in a class.
You’re missing out on the queuing and specific tailoring to race preparation. If you know what you need to do specifically for a race and you want to lock into your Just Run feature that day, it’s definitely an option that exists on the table.
How does a class work? For anybody who hasn’t taken some class that incorporates treadmill classes of some kind, how does the queuing work? Is it just, “Adjust your resistance to X?” Because you want to keep it fun. Everything Peloton does is fun. We know that’s going to be there.
You’re asking specifically how do you develop your metrics?
I’m asking the format of the class. In a Bike class, they might say, “Let’s hop out of the saddle,” and then it’s designed in a whole bunch of different ways. Is there a better way to say it?
I think what you’re asking and what I’ve been thinking is that people have been familiar with the concept of a spin class that’s been around for a while. People think of running as more solitary. They don’t necessarily think of it as something that gets taught in a class environment. What’s that look like? What’s the structure of that? Is it comparable to a spin class? Is it modeled on that? Is this an entirely new thing?
It could be compared to it in a high-level way. Let’s take a spinning class for example. There’d be a warm-up phase where you’re getting the legs going. Maybe that’s a walk and maybe that’s a light job. Maybe that’s going to be some run-specific exercises. If you look at track athletes and the way we warm-up for any sprinting or faster runs, we definitely want to activate glutes. We want to activate the core. We want to make sure that our hip flexors are turned on, that the hamstrings are nice and warmed up. Maybe you’re going to get into some side shuffling. Maybe you’re going to do some run-specific exercises on the treadmill or off the treadmill before you get into your run. When we’re talking about the run itself, most first miles are generally warm-up miles and you’re getting some junk miles out to get the heart rate going. You can then get into the body and the meat of your workout.
A fartlek workout, which in Swedish means speed play, would look like a fast and then a slow workout. You could compare that to an intervals class and on a spinning Bike where you might increase your speed and then slow down. We also have the variable instead of adding in resistance. What would resistance look like on a treadmill? That would be called inclined. If you’re running outside, a lot of times we don’t even realize the dips that exist in our own topography where we’re living.
It’s definitely much more apparent in some ways if you live in San Francisco. Even if you’re going at the same pace the entire time and you’re maintaining your speed, the minute you add in an incline, whether or not it’s super high-grade or even negligible, it adds a different challenge. Automatically, you’re going to feel that in your lungs and you’re going to feel that you need to increase your cadence to hit your same pace over and over. There’s definitely running as a sport, like cycling as a sport. In any sport, there’s a method and a practice to get better at your craft. It would be like saying, “How would you get better at playing football?” You’re going to have football-specific exercises and you’re going to have to get out there and you’re going to have to scrimmage. You’re going to have to play some ball. You’re going to have to get out there after you have some run-specific exercises. You’re going to have to get out there and run.
It doesn’t have to be a single pace that you go for a long distance. I think that’s where a lot of people misinterpret what running is a lot of times and how it gets translated into a classroom atmosphere. There are many options on the table, a directly-translated sport to classroom program for running too. We have variables like time, distance, speed and the plane of action. Whether you’re going forward or sideways or backward, you can add in intervals. You can add in run-specific exercises off the treadmill. If you want to do a strong run, maybe you’ll have some squats, lunges and calf stretches in between that you’d get on and off the treadmill to make for a stronger run the next time around. Without giving too much away of the actual specificities of our classes, there’s plenty of fun and variations within every single workout that there’s not even a possibility of becoming bored with it.Be that crazy person that says your name out loud because it validates that you're trying and validates that you can do it. Click To Tweet
Would you say the same thing about total body classes that are focused on the mat? Are there a million different options that you could do? I didn’t know if there was maybe a certain structure or how it would work, I guess you do the workout. Whatever is up on the screen is what you do.
Here’s the thing about floor-based work out. They are a great opportunity for you to get a full-body workout if you’re not going to run every single day. Especially for our new runners, if you’re not already running five days a week, I wouldn’t recommend starting off running five days a week. Some of your classes should be walk class, some of them should be a floor-based class. We want to make sure that we’re giving you a well-rounded program and maybe some of it’s going to start off with bodyweight and beginner-based class. Some of us might start off with resistance and to add in a little bit more of strength in a different format. Some days you’re going to use dumbbells and you can use light to heavy dumbbells. They’ll also be broken down via the upper body, lower body and core. You’re going to get run-specific workouts. You’re going to get calisthenic workouts.
In all honesty, there are many cool, fun things that you can do in a floor-based workout. There are no limitations. Our bodies can do much, especially now that we’re able to get off a piece of equipment and continue to work out. We have the world at our fingertips. We can do so much. There’s going to be a ton of different classes on a daily basis. We’re going to be using equipment, no equipment. There’ll be some workouts that are designed to kick your ass and then some workouts that are designed to be low-impact and being nourishing to your body in those post-recovery, post-run stretches and pre-run workouts. It’s specific to what it is that you are looking for that day.
Every instructor brings their own unique energy to the Bike so far. Going forward, any piece of equipment, what can we expect from you?
You can expect music to be the forerunner of my class. I am obsessed with having music that is perfect for the actual class that you’re doing. If I have a low-impact class, I want that to be reflected in my music. At the end of the day, every single class, the two things that you’re always going to feel from me are going to be motivating and are going to be challenging. Challenging in a way that’s not scary and it’s almost like a coach wrapping his arm around your shoulder and saying, “We’re going to do this together. You got this. You’re with me because I’m with you every single step of the way.” Not to say that every day is going to be hard and every day is going to be easy, but there’s going to be challenging moments for every single workout. It’s something that we have to expect because that’s the way our days go. That’s what makes us stronger every single day. I always think that the reason that I’m here is that we all need a little extra motivation and that’s what I want to bring to the table.
Do you have certain kind of music that we can expect, that’s your favorite?
I’m obsessed with hip hop, my number one. I have to admit when I’m sprinting, I love rock. My dad is a musician and I grew up with everything from listening to Eric Clapton to The Beatles to The Turtles and everything from Aerosmith and Metallica, you name it. I can’t pick one favorite, but I’ll say the majority of my music that I consistently train and teach to is hip hop. When I want to sprint, I need that hard, heavy rock.
Was your dad a professional musician?
He still plays out.
Was he involved with something we might know?
He does more local stuff. That’s definitely a passion project of his though.
As you could probably tell by the latest boutique collection, the Peloton users, Pelotonia, they love their slogans and catchphrases. Do you have a catchphrase that people could expect to hear?
My catchphrase for lack of better words or my motto is always, “You can do it.” When I was training for my triathlon, I had torn both of my hamstrings and I was coming out of it. I was on my 10K portion of my race and I remember out loud having to coach myself every time I would go for a run and I was getting my hamstrings back into working mode. I out loud, like a crazy person, said my name. I’d always say, “Rebecca, you can do this. Rebecca, you got this. You’re doing well, Rebecca.” It was like hearing somebody else say it because we don’t say our names out loud our self. I highly encourage you to try this and anybody that’s reading the next time you’re in a moment where you want to give up, whether it’s a plank, push-ups, pull-up, running, cycling. Say your name out loud. Who cares who’s listening? Nobody cares about what you do. They’re always worried about themselves. Be that crazy person that says your name out loud because it validates that you’re trying and validates that you can do it. There’s somebody right there at that moment that believes you can do it and that person is you. It’s powerful. It works every single time.
A question that we have here is, “Will there be playlists for these workouts like there are now on the Bike?” Everything that people have come to expect on the Peloton Bike as far as the leaderboard, the way that music playlists are put together, how all those things exist, they will still exist within the treadmill?
I know some people were asking about that. I know you’re still working on building your teams. I don’t know if you know the answer to this. Will there ever be professional runners that come in similar to how they have people come in for the Bikes, like George Hincapie and others like that?
That’s a great question that I honestly can’t give you a yes or no answer to. I would love that to happen. That would be amazing. It’s definitely something that we celebrate on the Bike now having professional cyclists come in and deliver a class. That is such a unique and special moment for everyone to be able to experience. I would love to mimic that on the treadmill. We will see.
Some of the questions have been answered organically, but I want to be sure and attach a name to this one so I don’t sound like a weirdo, but this is from Melissa, Karen, George and Bradley. They wanted to know if you’re going to be at HRI.
I am going to be at HRI.
We will get to meet you then because we will be there too.
I saw the email come out and we’ve been talking about it. Finally seeing it in writing. I’m like, “It’s a few months away.” It’s going to be fun.
I have one last question that isn’t on Crystal’s organized list that I’m going to throw at you. Everyone in the Peloton community loves their shout outs. I was going to ask, as a personal favor to me, Crystal’s leaderboard name is Clip Out Crystal. Could you make her your first official shout out now?
Clip Out Crystal, I got you. Now you have to come to the first class too.
I will be in your first class, I assure you. We have a treadmill reserved. I will be there.
I cannot wait.
Let people know where they can find you on the social media that exist out there.
You can visit my Facebook page. I am Rebecca Kennedy – Peloton page. If you want to go to the rider page, you can either slide on over to my profile and find me there. It’s @RKSolidNYC. I’m on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Spotify. SoundCloud if you have playlists. In the meantime, you can get a little taste of my music. You can do all of that. Follow me and I’ll follow you back.
Thank you for doing this.
Thank you for having me.
What would Rebecca Kennedy like us to eat?There's somebody right there at that moment that believes you can do it and that person is you. Click To Tweet
She would like you to eat protein pancakes.
Good luck with that.
I think you could do this, especially if I didn’t tell you the details as I was doing it.
In other words, I should not eat any of your pancakes for the next several weeks.
I don’t know, let’s see what happens. Don’t forget, we also had those yummy chocolate waffles from Rachel.
That’s true. I’ll eat the waffles, but not the pancakes.
I don’t have a waffle maker so you’re going to have to have pancakes.
This starts with a ripe banana and we have some Promix vegan pea protein with B12. We have some organic unsweetened almond milk, but you can use any milk that you enjoy. It also suggests 1 or 3 egg whites and then organic pure Madagascar vanilla extract or scrape of vanilla bean. I don’t see you scraping a vanilla bean. I’m definitely going to have to make these for you. You can optionally sprinkle in some cinnamon, some nutmeg and some cardamom. You mix it all up and put it in the skillet and heat it up. She also had some suggestions. If you wanted to add more protein, you could do that after using plain Greek yogurt instead of milk. She also suggested you could also add in Promix powdered peanut butter to the mix and an extra tablespoon of yogurt. If you wanted to take it on the go, you could make an extra batch and store it in the freezer bag in the refrigerator. You could eat with your hands on the go as a pre-workout snack. Also, as a bonus, you can get 10% off Promix by using the RKSOLID10 code at checkout. That’s at PromixNutrition.com.
Where can they find all that? That’s a lot of information to take in.
What do we have in store for people in the next episode?
Ben Schirmer is in the next episode. It’ll be much fun. Ben is great. He’s hilarious.
We will have that to look forward to. Until the next episode, where can people find you?
They can find me on Twitter at @RogerQBert or on Facebook at Facebook.com/TomOKeefe or on the Bike not at all. In case you weren’t aware, I won’t be on the Bike at all ever and for always. Don’t forget if you want to keep up with the show, you can do that at Facebook.com/TheClipOut or the Facebook group that you could join while you’re on the page or on our website at TheClipOut.com. That is it for this episode. Thanks for reading. Until next time, keep pedaling.
- iTunes – The Clip Out
- The Clip Out Group – Facebook
- Rebecca Kennedy
- PlayFULL – Facebook
- Peloton Tread Group – Facebook
- Rebecca Kennedy – Peloton – Facebook
- @RKSolidNYC – Twitter
- Instagram – Rebecca Kennedy
- SoundCloud – Rebecca Kennedy
- @ClipOutCrystal – Twitter
- @RogerQBert – Twitter
About Rebecca Kennedy
Rebecca’s background in dance, gymnastics and track & field laid a foundation for movement and body awareness that she brings to every Tread class.
As a former bootcamp instructor, a Nike master trainer and NFL cheerleader, Rebecca aims to make every workout the best part of the day by celebrating movement and empowering through positivity. Learn more about Rebecca on her Peloton Facebook Page.